tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post1330328342224794266..comments2023-02-16T05:41:44.099-05:00Comments on IMRAN™: In My Humble Opinion: It's Terrorists Killing Pakistanis; Muslims, Christians & AhmadisIMRAN™http://www.blogger.com/profile/03919552891874811342noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-24193220483835981682010-06-13T19:24:16.582-04:002010-06-13T19:24:16.582-04:00there is no evidence to suggest Hitler had Jewish ...there is no evidence to suggest Hitler had Jewish ancestry. A paternal grandfather wouldn't make him Jewish anyway.<br /><br />I personally have no problem with polygamy in theory, although it tends to be abusive in practice, in my view. But then, from a liberated, free western perspective, being a woman in most Muslim countries isn't much fun.LondonGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17532160454896753797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-74747635239142808742010-06-13T17:10:16.921-04:002010-06-13T17:10:16.921-04:00How interesting to see that Nazis blew up cemeteri...How interesting to see that Nazis blew up cemeteries to hide the fact and today Jews will deny that embarrassing fact. There is plenty of evidence online to show the connection, my friend. You are welcome to deny the holocaust perpetrator's ironic origins.<br /><br />German law is to send you to jail. Professors have lost jobs in Europe for questioning the holocaust numbers.<br /><br />America (and maybe others) will send me to prison if I marry two (or more) women, which is permitted in my religion (and was common among the Mormons). Why is that OK? <br /><br />Why are no Europeans or Christians or Jews speaking out about this usurping of my rights within America while crying about a developing openly-declared Muslim nation having laws against blasphemy?<br /><br />ImranIMRAN™https://www.blogger.com/profile/03919552891874811342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-45826323575038427822010-06-11T10:05:31.593-04:002010-06-11T10:05:31.593-04:00there is no proper evidence at all that Hitler was...there is no proper evidence at all that Hitler was Jewish, and it's most unlikely to be true.<br /><br />The claim that he was Jewish arose from the fact that his grandmother gave birth to an illegitimate child, Hitler's father. The grandmother was called Maria Schicklgruber. Hans Frank said during the Nuremberg Trials after the War that Maria had worked for a Jewish family called Frankenberger in Graz, in Austria.<br /><br />However, no Jews lived in Graz from 1400 odd until 20 years after Hitler's father was born, and there was no family called Frankenberger there, either. <br /><br />I don't know precisely what the law is in Germany about neo-Nazism. I believe Holocaust denial is a crime there, and it is in Austria, I'm fairly sure.<br /><br />Do you see a belief in Islam and a tendency towards fascism as the same thing? <br /><br />I wonder why so many Muslims protested against the (stupid) Swiss decision to ban mineret building in that country, but think it's perfectly OK for countries such as Pakistan to prosecute for blasphemy?LondonGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17532160454896753797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-61323451982758693152010-06-11T01:35:05.021-04:002010-06-11T01:35:05.021-04:00Marx was certainly Jewish, but Hitler himself orde...Marx was certainly Jewish, but Hitler himself ordered the bombing destruction of the town and cemetery where his Jewish ancestors were buried. Plenty of historical information a Google search will show about Htiler being part Jewish.<br /><br />The state (Pakistan), supposedly an Islamic Republic at least in name, can prosecute anyone or them (Ahmadis) based on whatever the law of the land is. That is what countries have the right to do.<br /><br />Why does Germany prosecute people if they want to be Nazis? "Surely that is an abuse of a secular authority."IMRAN™https://www.blogger.com/profile/03919552891874811342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-31883113106554029402010-06-05T07:33:07.469-04:002010-06-05T07:33:07.469-04:00Hitler wasn't Jewish, Karl Marx was. But neith...Hitler wasn't Jewish, Karl Marx was. But neither did their persecution in the name of religion, whether Christianity or Judaism, so I don't think it's a valuable simile.<br /><br />"So, I believe the Ahmadi cult has every right to life and the pursuit of happiness and success (that they do enjoy) in Pakistan"<br /><br />Why, then, does the state prosecute some of them for blasphemy? Surely that is an abuse of a secular authority.LondonGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17532160454896753797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-33270719748249770242010-06-05T01:19:40.406-04:002010-06-05T01:19:40.406-04:00Thanks for the comment. My example of Hitler was n...Thanks for the comment. My example of Hitler was not to say whether the nobody named Ghulam Ahmad was comparable to him or not but to how such a group would be considered mainstream Christian or Jewish or not. Hitler I think was originally Jewish as was Karl Marx and they both started what could effectively be called un-religions. But either one claiming to be doing Jesus' or Moses' work would not be tolerated. Sure, Muslims today are willing to kill in the name of religion, but the Church was burning people alive for far lesser crimes than blasphemy. I may not be the ultimate Muslim, but I know what that means. So, I believe the Ahmadi cult has every right to life and the pursuit of happiness and success (that they do enjoy) in Pakistan, that also does not give them the right to claim to be what they are not, Muslims. As far as skin off my nose etc... Muslims merely take their religion seriously, in the West they take trademarks infringements more seriously, I guess. But, I'd love to see Catholics or born again Christians declare that Mormons are fully Christians as they practice. Not going to happen. Only difference is, Christians stopped burning people just a few centuries ago. Muslims never burnt anyone (forbidden in Islam) but in time they too will lighten up and see if any of them is "pure" enough to cast the first stone, so to speak. None are.<br /><br />But, bottom line, member of the Ahmadi cult are Pakistanis like me and others. They are NOT Muslims like I and others are, however lame or poorly practicing.<br /><br />ImranIMRAN™https://www.blogger.com/profile/03919552891874811342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-23698668942197137912010-06-04T21:58:44.684-04:002010-06-04T21:58:44.684-04:00"Would Jews and Christians welcome a new cult..."Would Jews and Christians welcome a new cult announcing it was practicing Judaism or Christianity but following Adolf Hitler or Stalin as their leader? Would Jews and Christians not call the cult as abhorrent to their basic religions if its basic premise was completely contrary to the most fundamental tenet of their religion?"<br /><br />it seems a false comparison, to me. There is nothing about Ghulam Ahmad which makes a fair comparison to mass-murdering tyrants such as Hitler or Stalin. He travelled, preached, wrote, etc. Not quite the same.<br /><br />there are in fact a number of groups which call themselves Christian or Jewish, but which don't appear to many mainstream adherants of those faiths to be remotely Christian / Jewish. For example, "Jews for Jesus", Seventh Day Adventists, Mormons, etc. Those groups aren't worshipped, but neither does it seem to upset people that they call themselves Jews or Christians in the same way as many Muslims deny that Ahmadis are Islamic.<br /><br />After all, it's no skin off your nose if someone calls himself a Muslim and you don't agree, is it?<br /><br />One factor that I think you should have mentioned is state persecution of Ahmadis in Pakistan - every year some are arrested for blasphemy, for example. And the police regularly fail to protect Ahmadis from violence.LondonGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17532160454896753797noreply@blogger.com