tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post113920719142354280..comments2023-02-16T05:41:44.099-05:00Comments on IMRAN™: In My Humble Opinion: Let's Make New Cartoons Of The ProphetIMRAN™http://www.blogger.com/profile/03919552891874811342noreply@blogger.comBlogger122125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-87091445364286295202010-12-17T06:09:09.877-05:002010-12-17T06:09:09.877-05:00i so desperately want to agree with you . 100 perc...i so desperately want to agree with you . 100 percent but i find that i cant. sure i agree about the insane reactions that were very harmful to muslim identity as a whole.BUT (theres always a but )<br />you like examples dont u ? so here is one . if some one made a caricature of ur mother for other peoples amusement ?what would u do ?<br />say ":hey my belief in her motherhood is so strong i dont need to react at all?" <br />you wud go out and punch tht person`s lights out.and if it were an insulting caricature , wht wud u do then ?<br />Everyone is making this all into some huge conspiracy and islam and belief and whatnot .when the simple thing is some one insulted a person we all love very much.because we couldnot slug him /her we took other ways to vent our anger(which were stupid ,no doubt)<br />ANOTHER thing , u keep saying smelly mouth mullahs or something.First , they are not mullah if they are not taking care of cleanliness.so dont call them that.<br />SECOND , u might have met some mullah who was fasting .tht does give a peculiar odour , no ?how can u insult that ?<br />i understand tht u were using tht expression for those who are only posing as mullahs .still it gives a bad name to them ALL.<br />i think i m coming across as too critical but i have been thinking about ur article ever since i read it and i had to write a response for my peace of mind.even though i never have before because of the rapid descent into name calling and general rudeness that everyone is prone to descend into.<br />so , we agree tht it is only natural to feel offended . then we had protests and what not.the thing with living in a not "super power" country is that no one listens to you.so ,how do we make them realise we are offended ?i think destroying govt property is plain idiocy but peaceful protests are not . as for why shud the danish govt. hv to apologise for it . well why shud pakistanis have to pay the cost for 9/11 when it wasnt even staged by us ?<br />I DONT THINK that asking for retracting those cartoons was wrong.they shudnt hv been given tht much importance in the first instnace (agree with you there) but after all the people had found out about it .wht to do then ?not say anything ?well tht`s wht other religions do , yes .ANd hasnt tht given people free reign to mock who ever they want whenever they want?<br />there is a differnce between calling us normal muslims names and messing with our Prophet.<br />What is intolerance? <br />hating islam amd muslims ?killing innocent civilians?deliberately crossing pakistani borders and killing army men .who were actually helping in the war against terror?not letting muslims in their country? burning Quran ?insulting their Prophet?<br />or <br />Having protests in OWN country so that other people would be aware of the hurt they have caused? <br />i do not agree with extremism .Non- muslims dont like it either yes ?extremism is bad in any way or form ?SO WHY IS THERE EXTREMISM IN THEIR FREEDOM OF SPEECH.???SHOULDNT THERE BE A BALANCE OR A CHECK THERE TOO ?Sananoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-80461179390911957512010-05-23T07:08:22.511-04:002010-05-23T07:08:22.511-04:00Salaam to all.
Well, I must say that this is real...Salaam to all.<br /><br />Well, I must say that this is really a very thoughtful post. Great work Imran. <br />I totally agree with your main point of view but I disagree with some of the extreme words used by you (in some places).<br /><br />I think, being Muslims, we should respect All the Prophets.<br /><br />My reply to an anonymous person who said that:<br />"..What is truly offensive though is that a Christian cannot go to "Mecca" and proclaim his faith without bringing along a replacement head. The U.S. was founded by Christians and it was this fundamentalist faith which allowed for so much freedom. A Muslim can worship openly in this country.."<br /><br />Well, first of all, not Everyone can enter U.S. and start proclaiming his/her faith. Anyone who wants to enter U.S. should 1st get a Visa from U.S. Govt.[and several Muslims can simply never get it :)]<br /><br />Similarly, to enter Mecca, there is a VISA for that as well. And the condition for getting this Visa is very simple: Anyone who wants to enter Mecca should accept that, 'There is only one God and Muhammad (P.B.U.H) is His last Prophet.'<br /><br />No one can consider the U.S visa policy as offensive. Similarly, no one should consider the Visa policy of Mecca as offensive as well..<br /><br />with best regards,<br />Shayan.<br />======Shayannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-16351813230664284272010-05-20T16:08:34.105-04:002010-05-20T16:08:34.105-04:00"Basically, we both agree that some of these ..."Basically, we both agree that some of these reactions from Muslims are giving are not in accordance with Islam`s teachings (burning flags, attacking embassies, insulting others). These terrible acts hurt ourselves the most."<br /><br />Makes sense to me. Burning buildings and threatening to kill people doesn't say "Religion of Peace" to most people.LondonGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17532160454896753797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-64184996257046541532010-05-20T15:20:11.614-04:002010-05-20T15:20:11.614-04:00Good one, Imran. I wish I could be as level-headed...Good one, Imran. I wish I could be as level-headed as you about monotheism ;-)<br /><br />Best regards,<br /><br />SalaarAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10991845753810474388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-91169061337098858002010-05-20T14:27:41.540-04:002010-05-20T14:27:41.540-04:00INCREDIBLE SIR!!!
As a Muslim, I am PROUD of your...INCREDIBLE SIR!!!<br /><br />As a Muslim, I am PROUD of your thoughts, and feel you are doing an actual "JIHAD" by pointing out the double standards (read hypocrisy) of Muslims, as well as non-Muslims.<br /><br />May your efforts bring an ever lasting peace in this World where people of all faiths and beliefs can exist cordially.<br /><br />Just one dis-agreement...in one of the replies, you said the following:<br /><br />Regarding a religious authority to stop these idiots, one of Islam's great values is that there is no central authority. No Pope. Though the Iranians/Shiites are catholicizing their version of Islam with Ayatollahs, symbols, self-flagellation, etc.<br /><br />Although I would NEVER support a POPE sort of central authority in Islam, I also believe that an ideal system can only work if there is a 'central authority'...but as I said it's an IDEAL SYSTEM.<br /><br />The only time when Islam didn't face any of these problems (that we are facing today in the form of identity crisis, or our behavior with the external world), was during the time of Prophet Muhammad SAWW himself. Unfortunately it was proved after his demise that the system (one man show) cannot work, because to exercise such influence and run the system successfully and with credibility, one has to be super human. I have accepted this fact, and so should other Muslims, who still dream of KHILAFAT.<br /><br />As for your comment regarding Shias, and that they are trying to Catholicising Islam, you have just been guilty of the same MISTAKE that you have pointed out in your article. YOU SHOULD NOT JUDGE SHIAS JUST BY THE PRACTICES IN IRAN.<br /><br />Ayatollah Khomeini or his successor, Khamenei happen to represent just one point of view (Vali-e-faqih or central authority) among Shias. Just because they are dominant doesn't mean their point of view is correct. Maybe you don't know Ayatollah Sistani commands more followers, and his agenda in neither political, nor it aims to establish an Islamic Republic of Iraq.<br />Perhaps you should search about Ayatollah Montazeri, he was supposed to succeed Khomeini, but he couldn’t because…. (I wont spoil the fun, read it yourself :) )<br />The so called reformers (who are fighting for the change) in Iran, happen to be turbaned ayatollahs as well. You see…Shias are ‘slightly better’ when it comes to fighting radicalism and extremism among themselves...:)<br /><br />The thing you said about 'symbols and self flagellation' is another topic where you need to do a bit of research. And try to search for it from a 'non-wahabic' point of view. You'll get great help if you try to learn about it through SUFISM. 'Symbols' are quite dominant in Sufism as well.<br />Flagellation infact is symbolic as well. The violent ones (bloody ones rather) have been declared as HARAM by EVERY AYATOLLAH. If someone still does it, just think of him as the typical Muslim you have criticized in your article.<br />Long live Unity among Muslims…<br /><br />LONG LIVE UNITY AMONG HUMANS!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11519509833661409273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-15324123988890962482010-05-20T04:38:05.859-04:002010-05-20T04:38:05.859-04:00I really liked those thoughts.I really liked those thoughts.ThinkTankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17804369788886273333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-85361212586367339822010-03-27T05:34:16.510-04:002010-03-27T05:34:16.510-04:00very mature and intelligent outlook.
salute you s...very mature and intelligent outlook.<br /><br />salute you sir.anjumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-57084178876268858022010-01-10T12:41:12.987-05:002010-01-10T12:41:12.987-05:00Even Buddhism had warlike periods:
http://buddhism...Even Buddhism had warlike periods:<br />http://buddhism.about.com/od/basicbuddhistteachings/a/war.htm<br /><br />I think people will be people, and religion doesn't really make a difference one way or the other. Religious texts are interpreted in contradictory ways all the time, and it is the culture of a particular time and place that decides what is acceptable and what is not. <br /><br />-EBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-21536063696859378472010-01-02T11:45:51.385-05:002010-01-02T11:45:51.385-05:00The caveman writings about your Man in the Cloud a...The caveman writings about your Man in the Cloud are just as legimate as the caveman writings about another Man in the Cloud?<br /><br />You rightly call Christianity on its hypocrisy. Bravo. It needs the comeuppance.<br /><br />Life is breathtakingly short. People are bound to make up a savior to ease the fear of death and the pain of lost loved ones.<br /><br />And woe to anyone who questions that savior. Witness the Inquisition and the trials of Salmon Rushdie or the cartoonists.<br /><br />Both religions are legitimate?<br /><br />You would be equally enlightened to say both religions are legitimate frauds.wirelessben2https://www.blogger.com/profile/02681019523324037917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-8296865178558090162009-10-20T13:07:48.030-04:002009-10-20T13:07:48.030-04:00First of all, I would like to thank you for writin...First of all, I would like to thank you for writing this, I have a task for philosophy on freedom of speech and I chose the cartoons and the problems it invoked.<br /><br />It is nice to read that at least some genuine believers can look at these cartoons in a way not including violence or hating the cartoonist for making them.<br /><br />I think we should all look at this in a more relaxed way, I strongly doubt the Danish cartoonist meant to cause any problems, but even if he did, just by laughing it away the Muslim community would've made these drawings worthless.<br /><br />But as you said, it's because they acted in a way they thought was the correct way. Trying to get back at them by inflicting damage that wasn't even related to the Danish cartoonist or the newspaper. Still even if it was related to those, it still wouldn't have made any sense, because if you see what happened after the riots, the cartoons being published in 130 newspapers in 49 different countries, just to show their sympathy and to support free speech.<br /><br />The law of action and reaction also applies to this, because of the cartoons, people responded, but they over did it and others responded as well by publishing them even more. <br /><br />I think to ensure that further reactions like what had happened never happen again, is to just think, oh well, it's just a cartoon, we shouldn't make a fuss about it and it'll just pass, as everything does.<br />That's the attitude of most Christians when watching for example Monty Python movies, who criticize the Catholic church frequently.<br /><br />so let's just all stop caring what other people say or think about your religion, religion is what you believe and it should be what you think not what some Danish guy thinks.<br /><br />best regards<br /><br />Kevin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-51372081620873607582009-05-19T01:25:00.000-04:002009-05-19T01:25:00.000-04:00Reo, non-Muslims, Jews, Christians and others incl...Reo, non-Muslims, Jews, Christians and others including "non-believers" thrived in the days of Islamic glory. Retarded Taliban types blew up their wn heritage in Afghanistan by destroying Buddha statutes that centuries of Muslims had respected and let stand.<br /><br />Current hate-driven chaos-spreading agenda comes from Saudis (friends of every US government) Wahabi extremism funding efforts.<br /><br />There is no compulsion in Islam. I can tell you about Islam and God, but I can't force you to convert (nor "save your soul" or kill you as some other religions do).<br /><br />If such were Islamic heritage a Muslim Mughal empire would not have left any Hindus alive in India. Bad things are done in name of religion by all groups. These days Muslims have more of that share. Dick Cheney and Bush dropped bombs from 35000 feet as crusaders (as more documents are showing) but no one criticizing Christians or Christianity.<br /><br />May God be with you. LOL<br /><br />Regards.<br /><br />ImranIMRAN™https://www.blogger.com/profile/03919552891874811342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-50587134658119069692009-05-18T15:12:00.000-04:002009-05-18T15:12:00.000-04:00Some muslim commentators said above that they resp...Some muslim commentators said above that they respect all other major religions and their prophets as well. I am a strict atheist with no belief in god and in any religion. I just would like to know how you would feel about people like me. Why should someone have a belief ?Reonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-70391391684412371212008-03-24T14:36:00.000-04:002008-03-24T14:36:00.000-04:00Uhhh... OK. I have no idea what the writer of the ...Uhhh... OK. I have no idea what the writer of the comment above means.<BR/><BR/>ImranIMRAN™https://www.blogger.com/profile/03919552891874811342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-52438361340631374412008-03-24T14:28:00.000-04:002008-03-24T14:28:00.000-04:00load of crap. the cartoons were just for showing h...load of crap. the cartoons were just for showing how people feel about the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-5542818537450833072008-03-10T23:40:00.000-04:002008-03-10T23:40:00.000-04:00Ah, what a moronic comment from a fellow Muslim (A...Ah, what a moronic comment from a fellow Muslim (Anonymous "4:03 PM"). If only Prophet Muhammad could see what kind of idiotic 'logic' (or lack thereof) people use to try to 'defend' his good name. As if he'd need such stupid support.<BR/><BR/>During his lifetime, he had a lot worse, said, written and done to him than can be compared to the idiotic Danish cartoonists' creations. Yet, he went on to lead a small people to form the basis of latter day Islamic greatness and even today's 1 Billion Muslims (though most are so happy living in squalor and illiteracy as long as they can chant 'Death to (Someone)').<BR/><BR/>It's a good thing today's dimwitted Muslim 'defenders of Muhammad's name' were not around then, or Islam would have been nothing more than a group of adoring fans of the Prophet who would have disbanded after his death.<BR/><BR/>ImranIMRAN™https://www.blogger.com/profile/03919552891874811342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-11496380120525608472008-03-10T16:03:00.000-04:002008-03-10T16:03:00.000-04:00Just Shut up!Do you think that we {Muslims} are wr...Just Shut up!<BR/>Do you think that we {Muslims} are wrong, or doing something in a wringway that everybody has a right to insult our Prophet in a wrong way? Why? Who gave him such right to do so? Why? Is it humanity? Is it freedom of expression? Is it something? If you are a theif and sombody gave abuses to your father, do you think he is right? Tell me honestly?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-54993735581369119502008-02-17T08:03:00.000-05:002008-02-17T08:03:00.000-05:00Best Imran Anwar,Since the Mohammed drawings have ...Best Imran Anwar,<BR/><BR/>Since the Mohammed drawings have started to become headlines again (Feb 2008) after some Danish-Muslims (one born in Morocco and two from Algeria? or Tunisia?) planned to kill one of the artists that made one of the now world famous drawings <BR/>(I will not include Lars Vilks from Sweden, who is only out to profit from this scandal.......... and in my opinion he is not worth talking about )<BR/>This was not the first attempt to kill in the name of Islam over these drawings, In Germany a young Pakistani was arrested in the building of a German magazine that had printed them. He later committed suicide in the cell, and was buried as a hero ...... in the name of the “holy jihad”..... why does the Liberal Muslims not condemn this kind of actions? <BR/>Or the $1.000.000 for killing the Danish artists?<BR/>So I started to look around again...... and found your blog..... I have to say you have some great points..... But one thing that have been missing to me in your blog is the historically problem with the Abrahamic religions that have “ONE GOD”....Not only Islam... But especially Islam.....<BR/>Look at the problem when the pope visited Turkey last year, and wanted to visit the Haiga Sophia.. and the protests that it made.... This is an old Christian church, converted into a mosque... You can also look at the problem that some Islam leaders made out of the speech the Pope made in Germany..... They took a few words out of a long speech and made a bomb out of it... You can find the whole speech in the Vatican archive.... I recommend you to read it, It was rather pro-Islam.... (if you can´t find it I have a copy in my computer)<BR/>It would be the same as to take out a frase from Quran, like “kill” and claim that the whole Quran is violent..... <BR/>I can go on about how conservative/ fundamental Muslims have been destroying religious places of worship in the so called “Muslim world”. Just look at the ancient Buddha statues in Afghanistan, building a parking garage on a Hindu temple in Pakistan..<BR/>This list is long, and during the last decades the Muslim world have constantly been offending religious sites of other religions...... In the name of that they are an offence to Islam.... While here in Europe Muslims are allowed to visit Alhambra, and it was restored according to its former glory, by taking away most Christian changes...... There are several more examples in Spain..... <BR/>Christianity have got Religious Tolerans while Islam is filled with Religious Intolerance.... Often supported by Imams, or other Religious leaders.<BR/>This is also one of the big problems..... three weeks ago in Barcelona, (Spain) 12 Muslims (one of the arrested was an Imam), were arrested for planning a new suicide attack in Barcelona (BCN)..... in the name of that BCN, was former an Islamic territory....... some 800 years ago (BCN was only Muslim controlled for 100-150 years)........ They were arrested with all information about where to place the bombs (in the transportation system of BCN during peek hours), with the time fuses, but with not enough explosives...... in a clandestine mosque....used for more private meetings..... since most mosques camera and recording the prayers after hate against the non-Muslims have been spread in many mosques here in Spain (there are several transcripts of Imams demanding for terror action against Spain and Europe)..... Why and how can it be that an Imam can talk so bad about another religion or other believers. There have been many incidents of this lately.... and this don’t come out in the world news.....Not only in Spain.... In England Imams have been video filled during Friday prayer asking “Death to the British” etc..... In Sweden, Norway, Netherlands as well...<BR/>One of the Danish Imams who brought the Mohammed File to the Arabic meeting, Abu Laban was caught on video to talking of a planned “martyr action,”' and this after it has been known that the file was produced by him and several others..... The most provocative drawings were never published...... and it has came out in Danish TV and by the Danish Police that at least one of the drawings was most likely produced by the Imams, the “Paedophile Mohammed”... <BR/>Have the Imams been proclaimed “infidels” and punished by Islam? No they are celibrated as heroes........ <BR/>I have a copy of the “original” folder that the Imams spread to the various Islamic institutions and authorities.....<BR/>This makes me ask how much of this was planned by the Danish Imams....... and why......Have any Muslim organization apologized to the Danish for these lies ? <BR/>I would not so much speak of an Islamophobia in Europe, as I would speak of a problem with Islam in Europe..... In most European countries, the Imams or Mosques will get some funding from the government just as a priest or a church to finance it (in the name of multi-cultural interest). When will this ever happened in an Islamic country.....This also goes for publications in many countries in Europe...... not only Christian..... but also Islamic, Hindu, Jewish...... all in the name of integration. <BR/>In US you have a different system, where tax advantages are given to people that donate to religious, political ... non-profit organizations. Yes we talk of rights for all civilization, and the right to caricature all religions or ideas. <BR/>But not to spread hat, or lies.<BR/>Here to me is one of the big questions, in your Holocaust point. It is a fact that the holocaust happened, and in many European countries it is forbidden to spread lies, such as that the holocaust never happened, and is invented by the Jews.......<BR/>Same if I would use a T-shirt with “All Niggers are.....” that is hatred.<BR/>But, to publish a drawing of how I see Islam/Mohammed as a caricature is not racism, it is my opinion...... You could make a drawing of how “I see Hitler”.... and make him into a saint (He did some good things as well, as promote the “Volksauto” the Beatle” and built Autobahns for the people, even if they were used only by the army and the nazi leaders)...... that would be your opinion...... but to say that Hitler and the Nazis never ordered the killing of Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, etc would be a lie...... Nobody claims that Hitler only killed Jews in his Concentration camps.... <BR/>Several drawings have been published in Europe of Osama bin-Laden as a “hero”.... made in Arabic countries, in some shops here in BCN you can buy T-shirts with Osama.<BR/>Same as drawings have been made of “God” (Christian) as a killer, paedophile etc.....<BR/>When you talk about the Church and priests helping Hitler, check Wikipedia, how the Jewish World Organization were thanking the Pope and the Church for all the help they had received during the holocaust.... The mufti of Jerusalem, helped the Nazis, and in Iraq the Imams were helping the Nazis, all in the name of Islam...... etc.....<BR/>There were some rotten apples in all religions........... Why only point out the Christian?<BR/>Same with slavery....... What about the Eastern African slave trade..... to Arabia mainly... and controlled by the Muslims for Muslims........<BR/>It does not make the American-Caribbean slavery better...... No but when Afro-Americans talk about the bad Americans they forget all other slavery such as the Arab slavery, and yes Saudi-Arabia and Yemen did not out-law this slavery until 1964.......<BR/><BR/>Have you ever read the article that accompanied the publication of the Mohammed drawings ? I think it is still available in English via Wikipedia...<BR/>Did you read the apology that the Danish News paper published?<BR/>Have any Islamic organization apologized for the “Internet terrorism” made to Swedish sites, including “Bamse” the biggest magazine for children 3 to 7 years in Sweden.... <BR/>Have you seen the “Dirty Kuffar,” video that was made long before the Mohammed drawings, and distributed outside mosques in England, Germany, Denmark and Sweden.<BR/>Or what about the van-Gogh murder in the name of Islam......... Have you seen the video “Submission” made by Theo van-Gogh.(available via Y-tube)..... It was also made as a critical view of Islam, (by women that had been beaten by their Muslim husbands), and for Muslims to start to rethink their values...... Just as van-Gogh had made several programs on Dutch TV against Catholic Church, Dutch Reform Church and Jews.......He was a very provocative man, but he could open the eyes with his provocations, and create a change.......<BR/>When will the Western-world get a big demonstration for the help of the Tsunami victims in Indonesia lead by the Imams, or a simple “Friday prayer, thank you” for the help in Pakistan after an Earthquake....... Most of the help is coming from Europe, US, Canada, Australia, and not much from Saudi-Arabia or Iran. Saudi-Arabia and Iran is manly sending fundamental Imams as help to the world..... Yes we had one here in Spain not long ago, and he was filmed in a “Hate the West” Friday prayer.....Several Imams from Morocco (educated in Saudi-Arabia) were banned from entering Netherlands for similar reasons. <BR/>What would happen if a Christian priest in Pakistan would claim that all Muslims were bad......?<BR/>Here is some of the more important points in the double-edged sword according to me.<BR/>I also disagree with you on your constant blame on the Jews, such as the Jewish producers in Hollywood, there are some Arabic/Muslim as well....... Not all bad in the world is to blame on the Jews....Remember Muhammad Jamal al-Durrah, see Wikipedia.........<BR/>I would like to write some about the Palestine-Israel as well.. But I leave this for next time. <BR/><BR/>I was born in Sweden, not being Jewish but raised Protestant Christian. I wrote myself out of the church when I was 15, (30 years ago) and I consider myself more anti-god than pro-god. <BR/>I have lived in USA, Indonesia, India, Caribbean, Netherlands, and now I live in Spain....... To me it is important to not only get my news from CNN, or Al-Jazzera. Since I know 10 languages, I get my news from all over the world, and I like to read from more than one paper or TV station....... <BR/>My answer was written before and glued on your box since I am dyslectic and I have to spell-check it.<BR/>It would be nice to get some in-depth answer from you and not just “nice comment”.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-48809526183722552752008-02-12T07:36:00.000-05:002008-02-12T07:36:00.000-05:00>.... but dumb Muslims come out to express outrage...>.... but dumb Muslims come out to express outrage on something they consider blasphemous and Islam gets put on trial.<BR/><BR/>I don't know anything about Islam. What I do know is that there can be no support for violence as a response to depicting anyone in anyway via illustration - be it a deity or a mortal.<BR/><BR/>Period.<BR/><BR/>It's an opinion. It's to be shared. That is the way we proceed. If we fear retaliation for our ideas, then we stay blocked. We transcend very slowly.<BR/><BR/>This thing called existence is so big - well, it's so big that the word "big" doesn't come close.<BR/><BR/>The opinions we have at any moment are in a state of flux, never static. They evolve. Will this issue be discussed in the same way, or understood in the same way 2,000 years hence?<BR/><BR/>Probably not.<BR/><BR/>We will evolve, sharing each other's ideas as we share the air. It'll be a beautiful thing. I hope to enjoy it.<BR/><BR/>Yes, that last part may seem like I'm off my head, but I truly feel we never die, only move around - shift moments. Hard to explain, but it supports this idea of peace I'm sharing.<BR/><BR/>Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-1149185101517723502006-06-01T14:05:00.000-04:002006-06-01T14:05:00.000-04:00Thanks, Frances, for your comments and emails sepa...Thanks, Frances, for your comments and emails separately. I was amused to read this comment at http://lushootseed.blogspot.com/2006/02/stop-insanity-mrmuhammed.html about my posting above. My response to them was:<BR/><BR/>"I was amused by your comment about my blog item about cartoons of the Holy Prophet. Perhaps you should read it again. That is what I am telling Muslims, to grow up, who cares what someone says about the Holy Prophet. But, the holier-than-thou attitude of Christians is amusing considering the picketing of dead American soldiers' FUNERALS by Christian fanatics saying it's good they died... because America tolerates homosexuality. Last time I checked, the only recent cases of people being burnt alive (besides blacks lynched by White American Christians) was the Church and Christianity burning them at the stake... <BR/><BR/>Yes, no one has bombed a cinema showing an R-rated movie based on the life of some so-called Virgin Mary or some homosexual guy named Jesus..... but there is a reason... no one has made a movie like that because producers are smart enough to know what would happen to them. Abortion clinic doctors murdered by Christians in America is a current phenomenon too. No one seems to blame the religion of Christianity or all Christians for such evil people's actions.... but dumb Muslims come out to express outrage on something they consider blasphemous and Islam gets put on trial. Funny.<BR/><BR/>Regards<BR/><BR/>Imran"IMRAN™https://www.blogger.com/profile/03919552891874811342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-1148751385572324422006-05-27T13:36:00.000-04:002006-05-27T13:36:00.000-04:00Hi, Imran.Whew. It's wonderful to FINALLY find an...Hi, Imran.<BR/><BR/>Whew. It's wonderful to FINALLY find an eloquent and sensible moderate like yourself. I am SO tired of constant extremist thinking (from any party, anywhere around the world). Your thoughts are a breath of fresh air! If you ever feel the need to chat with a fellow moderate from Asia, you're welcome to step into my parlor anytime, dude. (Yahoo Messenger ID: fbillano) <BR/><BR/>Peace be with you, always,<BR/> <BR/>F.Billano<BR/>Manila, PhilippinesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-1146867890349341392006-05-05T18:24:00.000-04:002006-05-05T18:24:00.000-04:00Chase, your comment seems almost reasonable. Wow. ...Chase, your comment seems almost reasonable. Wow. However, the logic, as often, is flawed. And funny. Palestinians should be thankful that Israel OFFERS to SHARE land with them that belonged to them anyway!? Palestinians want what was theirs until 50 years ago and that is CLANNISH thinking? Huh. OK. Then what kind of lame claim are Jews laying based on 4000 year old story books? Ha. Lastly, it was White Christian Germans who screwed the Jews, and they should have given them land out of Germany, not stolen from Palestinians. I am all for giving Jews Israel based on 4000 year old stories if you agree to give you home and property to the Indians who owned North America just 300 years ago.<BR/><BR/>ImranIMRAN™https://www.blogger.com/profile/03919552891874811342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-1146779924201703312006-05-04T17:58:00.000-04:002006-05-04T17:58:00.000-04:00Chase, your "logic" stretches just continue to ast...Chase, your "logic" stretches just continue to astound me. <BR/><BR/>If a native American Indian can show that his grandfather owned the land your house is built on 300 years (much less 4000 YEARS) ago, will you support their right to take over your home and give you a garage to live in?<BR/><BR/>So, anyone living in Arizona desert should roll over and die if someone comes along and usurps their property and plants some nice bushes and trees? Doh. <BR/><BR/>Did you personally meet and serve Yasir Arafat's needs for boys to sodomize?<BR/><BR/>They are not lazy, but few can be more spiteful than Zionists... they also SPY on OUR country (the one you claim to serve) and use our tax payer money to do illegal things that get US hated. Wake up, get those blinders off... even if you do not ride a bike.<BR/><BR/>ImranIMRAN™https://www.blogger.com/profile/03919552891874811342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-1146734126844872032006-05-04T05:15:00.000-04:002006-05-04T05:15:00.000-04:00Chase, Hi. I am neither an Arab historian, nor an ...Chase, Hi. I am neither an Arab historian, nor an Islamic scholar, so I am sure you can find a dozen places to read up answers to the question(s) you ask. Jerusalem was the direction in which Muslims kneeled and prayed from the start, so perhaps that gives you some idea of its role to Muslims. Plus, the Occupied Palestine issue is more about LAND, less about RELIGION. <BR/><BR/>It would not matter if your backyard was totally unrelated to my religion or your religion.... if someone occupied it and made their own home on it, I am sure you would fight to liberate it. Or would you not? Thanks.<BR/><BR/>ImranIMRAN™https://www.blogger.com/profile/03919552891874811342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-1146086536517552412006-04-26T17:22:00.000-04:002006-04-26T17:22:00.000-04:00wahh wahh wahhh..wahh wahh wahhh..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10248241.post-1145959309128417882006-04-25T06:01:00.000-04:002006-04-25T06:01:00.000-04:00monotheistic religions killed off all the cool gre...monotheistic religions killed off all the cool greco-roman polytheistic gods... a shame really, they were much more exciting. and im sure they turned less people into fanatic killers.<BR/><BR/>christianity and islam both have thousands of years of blood on their hands.<BR/><BR/>funny how the jews that are the root to both relgions seem to be the most peaceful. (historically, not talking about the modern isreal issue)<BR/><BR/>in my opinion, if u can live life without worrying about god(s), heaven , or hell, you're better off ... most dont have the stomach for it though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com